i loved Prometheus like mad. i am eager to check it out again.
other movie opinions are as follows...
- i'll be happy to see batman, but don't feel like this movie batman character and scenario has any proper relation to the one which i believe to be the true version. i think this trilogy will ultimately fade from favour. - i'm upset at the delay for the new GI Joe. hopefully it'll fix things that i am fearful of with it. - i will put no money towards the new spiderman movie at all. i feel a strange combination of anger and disinterest regarding it. - i'm excited for The Bourne Legacy and fully expect it to be as good as the others. i am hopefully certain that it'll move towards an inevitable return of Matt Damon in subsequent movies. - no interest in Total Recall at all. - i love Dolph Lundgren, therefore am anticipating The Expendables 2. however, despite seemingly everyone else, have no interest in Chuck Norris' inclusion. i find very little to be charming about him. - if anyone wants to send me the first volume of the Sleepy Eyes of Death DVDs, please feel free. i luckily just found the second volume used this past week, but won't watch them until seeing the first set.
i really enjoyed prometheus, i like the connection to jesus "something happened 2000 plus years ago" (confirmed by Scott in interviews btw), i like the creepiness of it, i love it when smart people make stupid decisions, i love true sci-fi movies. overall very enjoyable, i'll give it a 4 out of 5.
I'm surprised you liked the movie so much. I gave it 2 out of 5 stars at best. I can't ignore flaws like:
The script by Jon Spaihts was horrible. This guy only wrote one other movie that only got 4.9 stars out of 10. The end result is stupid instances in the movie such as...
If you are a scientist on a new world with aliens you don't go and just take your helmet off because your computer says its safe. Chances are foreign substances can be present in the atmosphere that your computer is not programmed to recognize as they are alien and have never been encountered by humans that can be lethal. I thought that was a huge breech of protocol.
Characters were undeveloped especially, when the 2 crew members whose name I can't remember as they were barley in the movie that gleefully committed suicide along with their captain to crash their ship into the Jockey Spacecraft as the Captain "can't fly worth a damn".
If a space ship is rolling towards you do not run in a straight line and get flattened like a pancake in cartoon fashion. Run 90 degrees to either side and avoid it.
Guy Pierce was shown as Peter Weyland in one of the trailers to be his current age. In the movie he must have been 109 or something. He was a decrepit old bastard who did not even look natural. If you are going to have someone play an old man for the entire length of the movie without showing him at a younger age then you need to get a REAL old man. Do not put someone younger and put makeup or CGI effects unless you needed to show him when he was at a younger age. They never showed a younger Peter Weyland so getting Guy Pierce to play him was a mistake. He looked phoney as hell and it was uncalled for.
If you do surgery on your abdomen and cut it open and then staple it back together you are not going to be walking afterwards. Especially if you don't have anything like bacta tanks from Star Wars that speed the healing process. On top of all that, when she runs back to see everyone else nobody thinks to ask "what the hell happened to you?". She doesn't even tell the crew what happened.
Why the hell were there mutant zombies?! From what we've seen of the alien creature in the past, it didn't make sense. Plus, if you are a Space Jockey creating a biological weapon, changing them into something else that you still have to kill later is kind of pointless.
It was really dumb of the scientist Shaw to take an alien head back to their ship in a sandwich bag then remove the head from the bag with barley no protection. Then upon inspection notices some "strange growth" and after 2 seconds of thought she concludes that this is obviously some kind of "foreign cell stuff" and she decides (for kicks) to stimulate the cells with some kind of energy - just to see what happens. She does this with no research scientific thought process or with any caution of putting it under containment behind a protective glass barrier before messing with it. The end result is that the head animates, spasms out, and they barley contain it before it explodes. Again, there is a possibility of a new alien contaminate that their equipment can't detect, because it's new and it was never programmed to detect it.
When the Jockey ship crashes after being rammed by Prometheus, David tells Shaw the Jockey is going after her and it knew exactly where she was and immediately found her in the medical bay. I'm not sure how he knew that. At least have a small instance of cat and mouse for 30 seconds.
Anyhow, the point is I thought the story was mediocre at best and know that this movie will not be remembered as a great addition to the Alien Saga.
I loved it too! Seems it's not going to be very popular, though.
Batman is getting me confused. The bad guy in the trailers looks like Bane, but he talks like a very wise criminal mind. I don't really know much about Bane but thought he was always a addict to the drug that gave him his physical powers, acting more like a mindless thug.
I hated the new spiderman movie since I knew of it existence... Was a reboot necessary in such a short term? The original trilogy wasn't really great, but enjoyable (especially the second movie). And that new Mary Jane... A blond? Ain't she always been a redhead? (I am sucker for redheads).
Bane in the comics is actually very intelligent, and the first villain to figure out Batman's secret identity, then proceeded to break his back and throw him off a building.
You must be thinking of Batman and Robin Bane.
That's Gwen Stacy. She comes before Mary Jane in Parker's list of girlfriends.
Also the new Spidey seems to be closer to comics Spidey, and Andrew Garfield is a closer fit to Peter Parker than Tobey MaGuire. Also he's a better actor, by far.
You'll probably ignore this, but I'm going to comment on Prometheus anyway. Visually, I thought Prometheus was amazing. The acting too was brilliant, especially Fassbender (which I'm sure no reviewer could disagree). But unfortunately the flaws were too numerous for me to dispel.
This isn't a hard science film. For starters, the scientists act stupendously idiotic. Just because the atmosphere in the ship is breathable, doesn't mean you should take off your helmet. There are more things than just being able to breathe to worry about.
The geologist getting lost in the ship, despite he himself being the one to map it?
The biologist leaves the dead engineer body, despite being a biologist who has discovered aliens? He doesn't want to study them? Okay, he's scared, fine. But the he went with the geologist, and when he finds a live alien worm, he tries to pet it, despite it hissing at him? These are not the actions or smart people.
Earlier it is mentioned that Vicker's room is an emergency pod. The foreshadowing is far too obvious.
Weyland's make up and prosthetics were not convincing. Not awful, but too obvious, they should have got a real old man. Pierce's voice just didn't sound old enough. Not a major problem, but it adds up.
I get why David spiked Holloways' drink. But why dip his finger in it right in front of him? I mean, it's a good thing Holloway didn't notice. Just write David smearing his finger in the glass when he picked it up.
The caesarean scene. The actual scene itself is great. But no one followed her? No one noticed there was an alien squid on board? Why'd they even wake her up at all? Did those two doctors just say 'eh, she'll be fine, I can't be bothered to chase her'. David knew what was inside her, knew how fast it gestated, and he didn't even care to say anything? I know he was dealing with an awakening Weyland, but still, it begs belief that no one noticed and no one cared.
Vickers says "father". Please don't tell me that was supposed to be a big reveal? That was obvious too.
And on Vickers, why is her surname not Weyland? Evidently she is not married, but even if she was, I don't think she'd want to lose such a powerful name. So why? To make the reveal that Weyland is her father. Which was obvious from the beginning of that scene. This is speculation on my part, but it's just another little thing that adds up.
In every single film, when people are running away from something that is falling on top of them, they always run along its' axis. I get that thy were panicking, but damn it, it bugs me in every film! Hell, Shaw just rolls out of it's path, it's not that wide then! Vickers had been this smart, determined badass woman, right up until she dies, when she trips, and doesn't get up or rolls away.
The sound track. This is one that is more personal. I don't think it worked. Often I thought it sounded oddly triumphant, more like Star Trek, and I felt it just didn't fit. I often thought silence would have been better. I know it isn't the same film or genre as Alien, but I just don't think the soundtrack fit here.
If the atmosphere in the ship is breathable, then it must be for the Engineers so they can breathe. Which leads us to conclude that the outside is no breathable for them. So then the Engineer comes for Shaw and leaves the ship and gets onto the escape pod. Without breathing apparatus. Okay, we can speculate that the engineer can breathe both, evidently he can. So then why is the atmosphere breathable for humans, if the Engineers can breathe the planets air anyway? I'll tell you why, so the script can allow the (idiot) scientists to breathe and take their helmets off, so we can see their faces and hear them clearer. All this because the director/producer/writer didn't think the audience had the capacity to watch them with their helmets on. Immersion shattered. Real scientists would keep their helmets on regardless. Holloway is an adventure seeking idiot who should not be allowed on a trillion dollar ship because he thinks exploring another planet is a fun little activity. What's the point in decontamination anymore, if you're not going to follow any protocol? I expect idiocy from a b-movie horror film with teen stereotypes, but I dared to believe this film would be a little smarter than that. And people say this is hard science. No, it is not.
Why did the geologist turn into a crazed super strong mutant? His face melted...did he ingest any black goo? If he did, why did it do that to him and kill holloway? But for the life of me I can't remember if the geologist ingested any black goo. So why did he turn into a crazy mutant?
And why did we see the xenomorph at the end? Yes the Engineer got giant facehugged (really laying on the psychosexual themes here, nowhere near as subtle as the original Alien (and yes, they are comparable, the films do not exist in a vacuum)) and then our last shot is the xenomorph. On an empty planet. With nothing to do and no purpose. So what is the point of showing us? Fan service. Maybe it'll have a point in the sequel, but I shouldn't need to assume that.
And wow, sequel bait. I knew there was talk, but gosh was that blatant.
I think there are more things I'm forgetting, but I can't quite remember them all right now. I don't hate the film. I love the visuals, the acting and all the design work. I love how similar but alien the engineers looked; how roman/greek they looked, really tied in to our history and the Prometheus tale just by visual alone, and I loved that. It's beautifully shot and I want to watch it again just for Fassbenders' amazing performance. And while watching it I enjoyed it. But a couple times I did make these observations and it broke my immersion. I want more sci-fi. I love sci-fi, but the writing in this, the logic and the characters was sometimes awfully amateurish. But then, if I had known Damon Lindelof had written it, I would have lowered my expectations significantly. He can write up interesting premises' and deal with some big ideas, but he can't pull them off.
I didn't want Prometheus to be an Alien retread, but I wanted it to make sense, and not have characters who are supposed to be smart being morons.
Prometheus isn't a bad film, but it could have been better.
I agree with you almost on all fronts, while watching the movie I thoroughly enjoyed it, upon leaving, It just didn't add up, all the points you brought up just didn't make sense especially how stupid the scientists were.
The script by Jon Spaihts was horrible. This guy only wrote one other movie that only got 4.9 stars out of 10. The end result is stupid instances in the movie such as...
If you are a scientist on a new world with aliens you don't go and just take your helmet off because your computer says its safe. Chances are foreign substances can be present in the atmosphere that your computer is not programmed to recognize as they are alien and have never been encountered by humans that can be lethal. I thought that was a huge breech of protocol.
Characters were undeveloped especially, when the 2 crew members whose name I can't remember as they were barley in the movie that gleefully committed suicide along with their captain to crash their ship into the Jockey Spacecraft as the Captain "can't fly worth a damn".
If a space ship is rolling towards you do not run in a straight line and get flattened like a pancake in cartoon fashion. Run 90 degrees to either side and avoid it.
Guy Pierce was shown as Peter Weyland in one of the trailers to be his current age. In the movie he must have been 109 or something. He was a decrepit old bastard who did not even look natural. If you are going to have someone play an old man for the entire length of the movie without showing him at a younger age then you need to get a REAL old man. Do not put someone younger and put makeup or CGI effects unless you needed to show him when he was at a younger age. They never showed a younger Peter Weyland so getting Guy Pierce to play him was a mistake. He looked phoney as hell and it was uncalled for.
If you do surgery on your abdomen and cut it open and then staple it back together you are not going to be walking afterwards. Especially if you don't have anything like bacta tanks from Star Wars that speed the healing process. On top of all that, when she runs back to see everyone else nobody thinks to ask "what the hell happened to you?". She doesn't even tell the crew what happened.
Why the hell were there mutant zombies?! From what we've seen of the alien creature in the past, it didn't make sense. Plus, if you are a Space Jockey creating a biological weapon, changing them into something else that you still have to kill later is kind of pointless.
It was really dumb of the scientist Shaw to take an alien head back to their ship in a sandwich bag then remove the head from the bag with barley no protection. Then upon inspection notices some "strange growth" and after 2 seconds of thought she concludes that this is obviously some kind of "foreign cell stuff" and she decides (for kicks) to stimulate the cells with some kind of energy - just to see what happens. She does this with no research scientific thought process or with any caution of putting it under containment behind a protective glass barrier before messing with it. The end result is that the head animates, spasms out, and they barley contain it before it explodes. Again, there is a possibility of a new alien contaminate that their equipment can't detect, because it's new and it was never programmed to detect it.
When the Jockey ship crashes after being rammed by Prometheus, David tells Shaw the Jockey is going after her and it knew exactly where she was and immediately found her in the medical bay. I'm not sure how he knew that. At least have a small instance of cat and mouse for 30 seconds.
Anyhow, the point is I thought the story was mediocre at best and know that this movie will not be remembered as a great addition to the Alien Saga.
Batman is getting me confused. The bad guy in the trailers looks like Bane, but he talks like a very wise criminal mind. I don't really know much about Bane but thought he was always a addict to the drug that gave him his physical powers, acting more like a mindless thug.
I hated the new spiderman movie since I knew of it existence... Was a reboot necessary in such a short term? The original trilogy wasn't really great, but enjoyable (especially the second movie). And that new Mary Jane... A blond? Ain't she always been a redhead? (I am sucker for redheads).
You must be thinking of Batman and Robin Bane.
That's Gwen Stacy. She comes before Mary Jane in Parker's list of girlfriends.
Also the new Spidey seems to be closer to comics Spidey, and Andrew Garfield is a closer fit to Peter Parker than Tobey MaGuire. Also he's a better actor, by far.
Yes I was thinking of that awful movie's Bane; and what I remember from the original Animated Series too (I think Bane appeared rarely).
Had to search for Gwen Stacy in Wikipedia. I had no clue who she was! ^^U
I admit I have read maybe only one Spider-man comic in my life...
And yes, I agree Tobey McGuire isn't really a good actor.
Visually, I thought Prometheus was amazing. The acting too was brilliant, especially Fassbender (which I'm sure no reviewer could disagree). But unfortunately the flaws were too numerous for me to dispel.
This isn't a hard science film. For starters, the scientists act stupendously idiotic. Just because the atmosphere in the ship is breathable, doesn't mean you should take off your helmet. There are more things than just being able to breathe to worry about.
The geologist getting lost in the ship, despite he himself being the one to map it?
The biologist leaves the dead engineer body, despite being a biologist who has discovered aliens? He doesn't want to study them? Okay, he's scared, fine. But the he went with the geologist, and when he finds a live alien worm, he tries to pet it, despite it hissing at him? These are not the actions or smart people.
Earlier it is mentioned that Vicker's room is an emergency pod. The foreshadowing is far too obvious.
Weyland's make up and prosthetics were not convincing. Not awful, but too obvious, they should have got a real old man. Pierce's voice just didn't sound old enough. Not a major problem, but it adds up.
I get why David spiked Holloways' drink. But why dip his finger in it right in front of him? I mean, it's a good thing Holloway didn't notice. Just write David smearing his finger in the glass when he picked it up.
The caesarean scene. The actual scene itself is great. But no one followed her? No one noticed there was an alien squid on board? Why'd they even wake her up at all? Did those two doctors just say 'eh, she'll be fine, I can't be bothered to chase her'. David knew what was inside her, knew how fast it gestated, and he didn't even care to say anything? I know he was dealing with an awakening Weyland, but still, it begs belief that no one noticed and no one cared.
Vickers says "father". Please don't tell me that was supposed to be a big reveal? That was obvious too.
And on Vickers, why is her surname not Weyland? Evidently she is not married, but even if she was, I don't think she'd want to lose such a powerful name. So why? To make the reveal that Weyland is her father. Which was obvious from the beginning of that scene. This is speculation on my part, but it's just another little thing that adds up.
In every single film, when people are running away from something that is falling on top of them, they always run along its' axis. I get that thy were panicking, but damn it, it bugs me in every film! Hell, Shaw just rolls out of it's path, it's not that wide then! Vickers had been this smart, determined badass woman, right up until she dies, when she trips, and doesn't get up or rolls away.
The sound track. This is one that is more personal. I don't think it worked. Often I thought it sounded oddly triumphant, more like Star Trek, and I felt it just didn't fit. I often thought silence would have been better. I know it isn't the same film or genre as Alien, but I just don't think the soundtrack fit here.
If the atmosphere in the ship is breathable, then it must be for the Engineers so they can breathe. Which leads us to conclude that the outside is no breathable for them. So then the Engineer comes for Shaw and leaves the ship and gets onto the escape pod. Without breathing apparatus. Okay, we can speculate that the engineer can breathe both, evidently he can. So then why is the atmosphere breathable for humans, if the Engineers can breathe the planets air anyway? I'll tell you why, so the script can allow the (idiot) scientists to breathe and take their helmets off, so we can see their faces and hear them clearer. All this because the director/producer/writer didn't think the audience had the capacity to watch them with their helmets on. Immersion shattered.
Real scientists would keep their helmets on regardless. Holloway is an adventure seeking idiot who should not be allowed on a trillion dollar ship because he thinks exploring another planet is a fun little activity. What's the point in decontamination anymore, if you're not going to follow any protocol? I expect idiocy from a b-movie horror film with teen stereotypes, but I dared to believe this film would be a little smarter than that. And people say this is hard science. No, it is not.
Why did the geologist turn into a crazed super strong mutant? His face melted...did he ingest any black goo? If he did, why did it do that to him and kill holloway? But for the life of me I can't remember if the geologist ingested any black goo. So why did he turn into a crazy mutant?
And why did we see the xenomorph at the end? Yes the Engineer got giant facehugged (really laying on the psychosexual themes here, nowhere near as subtle as the original Alien (and yes, they are comparable, the films do not exist in a vacuum)) and then our last shot is the xenomorph. On an empty planet. With nothing to do and no purpose. So what is the point of showing us?
Fan service. Maybe it'll have a point in the sequel, but I shouldn't need to assume that.
And wow, sequel bait. I knew there was talk, but gosh was that blatant.
I think there are more things I'm forgetting, but I can't quite remember them all right now. I don't hate the film. I love the visuals, the acting and all the design work. I love how similar but alien the engineers looked; how roman/greek they looked, really tied in to our history and the Prometheus tale just by visual alone, and I loved that. It's beautifully shot and I want to watch it again just for Fassbenders' amazing performance. And while watching it I enjoyed it. But a couple times I did make these observations and it broke my immersion. I want more sci-fi. I love sci-fi, but the writing in this, the logic and the characters was sometimes awfully amateurish. But then, if I had known Damon Lindelof had written it, I would have lowered my expectations significantly. He can write up interesting premises' and deal with some big ideas, but he can't pull them off.
I didn't want Prometheus to be an Alien retread, but I wanted it to make sense, and not have characters who are supposed to be smart being morons.
Prometheus isn't a bad film, but it could have been better.