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ok, i am maybe slow, or maybe just didn't care to put much thought in... i don't read comic books. haven't since the very early 90's. i love the characters and their potential, but see virtually ZERO appeal in anything 'superhero' currently on the racks... anyways, before i digress too much, i recently found out that a lame, yet very popular modern-era character named 'deadpool' (what does that name even mean?) was created by an even more lame villain named 'liefield'. i was aware of both of them and their garbageness, but did not know they were linked. this bit of obviousness makes things clearer now.
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:iconkohyunu:
~kohyunu Jan 18, 2011  Professional Filmographer
I pretend Superman doesn't exist in Batman. Or Wonder Woman, or Flash, or Green Lantern...

Actually... I pretend no other super hero other than Batman exists in Gotham... That's right, Robin.... YOU DON'T EXIST IN MY WORLD!! D:<
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:iconmarkarandjus:
~MarkArandjus Dec 18, 2010  Professional Digital Artist
...not even Hellboy?
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:iconwesleyriot:
*WesleyRiot Dec 5, 2010  Professional Filmographer
deadpool is fuckin awesome! as long as ole rob isnt drawing him. (i know people say he's a ripoff of deathstrike, but it was more a parody)

the name is something to do with him being an inmate somewhere and some guards having a deadpool on who would be killed first.... or something. i dunno, wikipedia that shit!
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:iconxanthestar:
~XantheStar Dec 5, 2010  Hobbyist General Artist
I LOVE Deadpool, but Liefield's crap. Deadpool himself was a rip-off of Deathstrike from DC. Deadpool has overcome this, and is one of my favorite characters right now - in his main title. Marvel's inundated the market with subpar version of him though.

That aside, I really love Marvel comics. Especially this Reign and Dark Avengers stuff that happened last year. It was very compelling, and character driven. As long as a comic has characters with depth, it's cool. That's why I don't read most DC titles.
:(
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:iconelkoi:
I know Deadpool. At sometime I knew about Liefeld creating him but I had forgotten, and now you made me remember lol.
I don't read Marvel anyway. I don't like all the exaggerating muscles and over sized human heroes.
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:iconbluerhapsody-11:
When Liefeld summoned Deadpool out of the Netherworld of his mind (I believe the ritual involved goat's blood and anatomically incorrect pentacle drawings), he meant him as a parody of Deathstroke. 'Tis why the costumes are so similar. Since then he has evolved less of a character and more into a comic relief-plot device.

Oh, and for those who don't know, Deathstroke is this guy: [link]

He's cool.
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:iconcostumesbycourtney:
*CostumesbyCourtney Dec 3, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
A dead pool is basically a game where the objective is to predict deaths.
I think it makes a cool name.

Liefelds' career continues to baffle me, he can't draw to save his life yet he actually influenced the industry of the 90's, he's also created several characters that have lasted until now and it's a miracle that Deadpool became so popular.

When Liefeld was in control of Cable and Deadpool they were boring, flat characters. Now days they've been greatly improved.
I personally love the character alot I'm just tired of seeing him appearing in stories he has no place being in.
I love that he breaks the fourth wall and he's even funnier than Spider-Man, also his costume is cool.
But he falls into cliche alot depending on the writer.
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:iconstephen-daymond:
~Stephen-Daymond Dec 3, 2010  Professional Filmographer
I agree with your lamentation over modern superhero comics, but it's not that the comics are better or worse it's just that we got older and the open ended superhero format is hard to invest in. I think in order to appeal to an old generation two things would have to change. First I think that comic companies should adopt the novel publishing worlds model and not make every title in their catalogs exist in the same universe. Hulk is a monster comic and works best when Bruce is the good guy and the hulk is bad. Avengers and spider-man should never exist in the same world as the x titles, simply because you can't expect the audience to believe that in a world where people through rocks at a children who are mutants would celebrate the fantastic four. I know I'm picking on Marvel in this case, but I hope you see where I'm going with this. The other thing novel publishers have over comics, is an end to the story. Novel Readers can feel the satisfaction of finishing a story, not comic reads, nor can they read a comic where the character not only die but stay dead.

I loved being a comic book kid, I just feel like the old format has run it's course and it's time for something new.

I'm not coming down on the artist and writers who work on these comics, obviously I know what it's like to be a paycheque player. The animation industry has many of it's own conventions. To those of you who like this formula, my apologies, it's just an opinion.
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:iconcostumesbycourtney:
*CostumesbyCourtney Dec 3, 2010  Professional Artisan Crafter
The explaination for the difference between the X-Men and the Fantastic Four is that the X-men are mutants, where as the F4 or Spider-man, or the Hulk are all considered mutates. People physically altered through freak accidents.
Although it doesn't explain why there's a social difference between the two.

Personally as a kid who grew up in the 90's I hated comics from that decade but I like modern comics.
These days everything is dark and dramatic, contrasting the light campiness of the gold and silver ages.
But no matter what era, comics can be plain silly and other times they can be brilliant.

Both DC and Marvel have had their share of successes and failures but I don't think there's anything fundamentally wrong with the way the industry is now.

My only complaint would be those cross-series story arcs. It's difficult to follow things like Civil War or Seige when you have to do so much extra reading for backstory.
Let it be self contained.
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:iconstephen-daymond:
~Stephen-Daymond Dec 4, 2010  Professional Filmographer
I agree with the self contained point. I think the need to make every story weave together is silly. Harry Potter doesn't need to be in the same world as a other story done by the publisher.
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